About GrNY & How to Join

GrNY is an informal club for gravel riding in the New York metro area. Rides involve dirt and paved surfaces, since it is difficult to string together continuous unpaved routes in our area. The goal is to get away from cars and seek gravel where we can find it.

Join us for rides that emphasize:

  • Fun exploration
  • Non-competitive atmosphere
  • No dress code (whether lycra, MTB baggies, or flannel)
  • Pacelining is discouraged on gravel roads.
  • Some members enjoy challenging rides, but the goal is the experience, not speed/stats.

Disclaimer: GrNY rides are completely informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. Our rides are not supported events. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group. We do not offer training or bicycle education.

How to get started with GrNY

You are welcome to join us for your first ride as a guest! Please carefully read and fill out the digital waiver form here. If you do not fill out the waiver, you cannot ride with us. The waiver must be filled out annually, before your first ride in that season. If you join us for a second ride, you will automatically become a GrNY member – see our Guidelines page for details and suggested contribution information. All riders should RSVP for rides on the Strava group. See details below.

Where to find info about upcoming rides

  • All rides are posted to the GrNY Strava group. Please RSVP to rides using Strava. A free Strava account is all you need to RSVP.
  • You can also join the GrNY email list to get notified about some (but not all) rides.

If you’d like to join the Strava group, where you can receive ride invitations and RSVP for rides

First click “join group” on Strava. We want to include people who might actually join rides. That’s why we will check that you:

1) live in the broader NYC Metro area (e.g. NY, NJ, CT), and

2) are capable of riding the distance of our shortest rides (35+ miles of hilly terrain).

If your Strava profile says you live far away – you won’t be approved for the Strava group. And we also won’t approve you if, when look at the stats on your profile, we see that all the rides you’ve logged to Strava are short rides. Almost all GrNY rides are more than 35 miles and typically on hilly terrain, so you should be used to regularly riding at similar distances and elevation gradients. That said, we understand privacy is important and some people have their profiles locked down. Others have never used Strava before. That’s okay.

If your Strava profile doesn’t reflect your location or riding ability, click “join group” on Strava then send an email to Steve at track.smart@gmail.com with a link to your Strava profile or your profile name. We’ll take your word that you regularly do long rides and can handle the terrain – no major explanations are required.

Once you’re part of the Strava group, communication via Strava is sometimes an problem. To get around that problem we’ve created an email mailing list. To get on the mailing list visit https://grny.org/email-list/ and follow the instructions on the page. We try to keep emails to a minimum. Please realize you have to confirm your email address to be fully signed up. Check your spam folder if you don’t see the confirmation email within a few minutes.

Finally, if you want to get a sense for the rides we do, we’ve put “ride reports” on our website for many of our past rides.

E-bikes

Generally speaking, GrNY is a club for people who enjoy mixed terrain riding on manual bicycles. Exceptions to the manual bicycle rule: Pedal-assist (no throttle) e-bike riders who join our shortest distance (most casual pace group) and ride in a way that is respectful to that group.  In general, e-bike riders should stay in the middle (or back half) of the pack, not in the front. Moving towards the front of the group (especially on climbs) risks blowing up the expected pace of the ride.  E-bike riders who ride off the front of the group, ride in an unpredictable manner, or otherwise do not naturally mesh with the pace and skill of the group may be asked to either, a) ride off the back of the group, or b) to leave the group and ride solo.

GrNY Guidelines for E-bikes

1)           It must be a state legal, pedal-assisted e-bike (no throttles allowed).  This is required for our club insurance.  Our rides are frequently in NY, NJ, and CT and may cross the borders of more than one state during a single ride.

2)           E-bike riders should stay out of the medium or faster pace groups and instead ride with the slowest (and most casual) pace group. 

3)           In general, e-bike riders should stay in the middle (or back half) of the group, not in the front. Moving towards the front of the group (especially on climbs) risks blowing up the expected pace of the ride.  E-bike riders who ride off the front of the group, ride in an unpredictable manner, or otherwise do not naturally mesh with the pace and skill of the group may be asked to either, a) ride off the back of the group, or b) to leave the group and ride solo.

4)           Expect that some riders will be riding near their physical limits (i.e., working very hard) and socialize and communicate accordingly when interacting with other riders.  Zooming past other riders (especially on the hills), while those riders are at the limit, is unsafe and will also annoy your fellow riders.

5)           One challenge for e-bikes fitting within road (or gravel) group rides is that power output can be quite different than manual bikes.  On steep hills, an e-biker might have the power of a pro rider.  On flats and downhills, they will have only the power in their legs once they hit the speed limiter on the bike.  Then there is the challenge of hitting speeds at which the motor assistance turns off suddenly while in a pace line.  For instance, many pedal-assist e-bikes provide zero assistance above 20 MPH.  On flat pavement and slight downward grades, the “medium” and “long” pace groups will exceed that speed on pavement, especially when drafting.  That is one reason we expect e-bike riders to join the slowest and most casual pace groups, where drafting is much less common.  Rubber-banding between being dropped (on flat or downward grades) and catching up (on hills) is not a good way to mesh with the group. 

There are a wide variety of opinions about e-bikes and where they fit in the scheme of group rides.  Some of our riders are strongly opposed.  Others are neutral as long as the person on the e-bike rides appropriately.  Others are positively in support of e-bikes if they allow experienced and skilled riders to continue to ride with their companions as they age or if they suffer from health problems. Whether you are riding an e-bike or a manual bike, if you mesh with the way the group rides, people probably won’t think much about the bike you are riding. Riding in ways that are unpredictable, or that don’t mesh with the group, is not going to win friends among your fellow riders.  It might also put fellow riders at greater risk, which will result in the unpredictable rider (whether on a manual bike or e-bike) being asked to leave the group ride. 

Westchester Dirt! (Sunday, Nov 24)

UPDATE: This ride is over. You can find some additional photos and a brief recap on Steve’s Strava activity: https://www.strava.com/activities/12975542393

Our thanks to everyone who joined us for this fun day of riding and post-ride celebrating. Have a great Thanksgiving!


Join us for a dirt-heavy ride in Westchester county! We don’t know how many more “3-speed” rides we’ll be able to do this year, given that winter is coming fast. We will have our usual three pace groups, which will differ in speed, distance, and intensity of climbing.

RSVP Link: https://www.strava.com/clubs/513005/group_events/1843882

ROUTES:

Long (61mi, >5200ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43458179
Medium (51mi, >4100ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43458220
Short (42mi, >3500ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43458314

DISCLAIMER: This is totally informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. This is not a supported event. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group.

Riders tackling the climb through Mountain Lakes Park.

We traversed many miles of beautiful dirt roads through forests, farms, and horse country estates.

Off-road trails and crazy climbs from Garrison, NY (Nov 16, 2024)


UPDATE: THIS RIDE IS OVER, BUT WE’LL BE POSTING MORE RIDES SOON. You can find a brief ride summary and some photos on Steve’s Strava activity: https://www.strava.com/activities/12916865605

Expect a normal “three speeds” ride on SUNDAY 11/24. We’ll try to get that ride posted soon.


This week (Saturday 11/16) Steve will be leading an informal gravel ride aimed at folks in our faster pace group. Expect miles of fun off-road trails and crazy climbs. If you have the choice between skinnier and fatter tires, bring the fat tires. You’ll be okay on normal gravel tires (e.g. 40mm) if that’s what you’ve got.

RSVP Link: https://www.strava.com/clubs/513005/group_events/1839047

ROUTES:

Full insanity (74mi, >8500ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/49036211

Partial insanity (58mi, >6800ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/49039746

Extra Credit (10k ft or bust edition): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/49046949

DISCLAIMER: This is totally informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. This is not a supported event. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group.

Black Rock Forest & Storm King (November 9th)

UPDATE: THIS RIDE IS OVER, BUT WE’LL BE POSTING MORE RIDES SOON. You can find a brief ride summary and some photos on Steve’s Strava activity:
https://www.strava.com/activities/12862424903


Come ready for adventure! Black Rock Forest is a hidden gem in our region. Steve has visited across seasons, whether riding the forest roads, hiking the trails, XC skiing, or snowshoeing. We will stick to the maintained forest roads, which were highly rideable – and a lot of fun – when we scouted them in July. It’s a beautiful place!

Here are some photos from Black Rock Forest for inspiration: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XzXA1TRMH7emrGWe6

We’ll also visit Storm King Highway, a better-known highlight of our region, which offers magnificent views of the Hudson River and beyond. Black Rock Forest and Storm King both suffered major damage during a major storm in July of 2023. Thankfully both places have been repaired, so we can return to these favorite spots.

See Strava to RSVP and find more details about the ride and pace groups: https://www.strava.com/clubs/513005/group_events/1829665


*** We will start at Bear Mountain State Park. If you are driving, there is a $10 fee for parking. If you have a NYS Empire Pass, you’ll be able to park for free, just like in any other NYS park.

*** Train riders can hop off at Manitou Station. They will have a 3-mile ride to Bear Mountain. [There is no parking lot at Manitou Station. If drivers want to avoid the parking fee at Bear Mountain, you’ll have to find a different place.]

*** All riders should use caution at the start and end of the route! We’ll have to navigate a busy road and traffic circle as we leave Bear Mountain State Park. The same goes for train riders, who will have to navigate to the park.


Strava is currently stripping external links from their pages. We have posted the routes and map links below.

QUESTIONS? You can email Steve at track.smart@gmail.com, but first see the RSVP link on Strava and GrNY’s tips and guidelines page, which contain a lot of useful information.

ROUTES:

Long (60mi, ~6000ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48960396
Medium (48mi, ~4500ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48913132
Short (38mi, ~3500ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48913108

START LOCATION: Bear Mountain State Park, Parking Lot 1. Map link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ScbZTf7v6w96iwyZ8

END OF RIDE HANGOUT: Informal picnic at Bear Mountain. See the RidewithGPS routes for the exact location we plan to gather after the ride. Look for the picnic table symbol on the map.


DISCLAIMER: This is totally informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. This is not a supported event. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group.

Black Rock Forest.

Views from Storm King Highway.

Jersey Dirt from Natirar Park, Nov 2 (Routes & Missing Links)

UPDATE: THIS RIDE IS OVER, BUT WE’LL BE POSTING MORE RIDES SOON. You can find a brief ride summary and some photos on Steve’s Strava activity:
https://www.strava.com/activities/12806981854


This area of NJ has some of the nicest gravel riding in our region: Dirt roads through woods, forests, and along peaceful streams; Ridges and hills with beautiful pastoral views; Quaint small towns with General Stores. You’ll probably find at least one cooler in the woods with local maple syrup and an on-your-honor jar for depositing money.

See Strava to RSVP and find more details about the ride and pace groups: https://www.strava.com/clubs/513005/group_events/1825379

Strava is currently stripping external links from their pages. We have posted the missing links below.

QUESTIONS? You can email Steve at track.smart@gmail.com, but first see the RSVP link on Strava and GrNY’s tips and guidelines page, which contain a lot of useful information.

ROUTE LINKS:

Long (60 mi, >6000 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/47048264
Medium (54 mi, >4900 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/47048304
Short (40 mi, >3600 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/47048336

START LOCATION: Natirar Park. Take the Peapack Rd entrance and go to the first parking area: https://goo.gl/maps/Naqdh1oga6mN5FRS8. Check the RWGPS routes for clarification.

END OF RIDE HANGOUT: Picnic in Natirar Park. We’ll bring some cold drinks and snacks.


DISCLAIMER: This is totally informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. This is not a supported event. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group.

(Photo: Courtesy of Ken)

Tunnels & Forests: Saturday, Oct 26 (Routes and Missing Links)

UPDATE: This ride is over, but you are welcome to check out Steve’s Strava post for more photos and a quick recap: https://www.strava.com/activities/12751976266


In honor of Kathy’s birthday, join us for a challenging ride on the dirt roads and trails of Litchfield County, CT. We’ll be riding brand new routes for the occasion. Expect tunnels, forests, and potentially goats on the trail!

See Strava to RSVP and find more details about the ride and pace groups: https://www.strava.com/clubs/513005/group_events/1816914

Strava is currently stripping external links from their pages. We have posted the missing links below.

QUESTIONS? You can email Steve at track.smart@gmail.com, but first see the RSVP link on Strava and GrNY’s tips and guidelines page, which contain a lot of useful information.


ROUTE LINKS:

Long (60 mi, >6000 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48837945
Medium (54 mi, >4900 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48810220
Short (40 mi, >3600 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48810314


GOOGLE MAPS LINKS

Start Location: Pawling Train Station – https://maps.app.goo.gl/qDnPvgnn4ruwdYYZ8 (* Be sure to look at the RWGPS routes for the exact meet-up location and parking spot for car drivers)

End of Ride Gathering:  O’Connor’s Public House in Pawling, NY. All of the routes end at this location – https://maps.app.goo.gl/LPFzaHWSFpjLfhSs8


DISCLAIMER: This is totally informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. This is not a supported event. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group.

Group photo, minus about seven riders who were still getting ready near their cars.

Great views. There was still some excellent fall foliage in many places.

Riders entering the tunnel in Steep Rock Preserve.

Dutchess Fall Foliage Ride, Saturday October 12 (Routes & Missing Links)

UPDATE: This ride is over, but you are welcome to check out Steve’s Strava post for more photos and a quick recap: https://www.strava.com/activities/12639767105


Join us for a spectacular fall foliage ride on the dirt roads of Dutchess County. We’ll be riding fresh routes to keep things interesting! The trees should have nice fall color, which will be an extra treat. We will have the usual three pace groups (short, medium, long) and expect all groups to end at around the same time. All routes end at Kelly’s Creamery & Food Truck, so everyone can celebrate together at the end of the ride.


Strava is currently stripping external links from their pages. We have posted the links related to this group ride below.

QUESTIONS? You can email Steve at track.smart@gmail.com, but first see the RSVP link on Strava and GrNY’s tips and guidelines page, which contain a lot of useful information.


ROUTE LINKS:

Long (64 mi, >5300 ft): ridewithgps.com/routes/48709455
Medium (54 mi, >4200 ft) : ridewithgps.com/routes/48708817
Short (42.8 mi, >3400 ft): ridewithgps.com/routes/48708860


GOOGLE MAPS LINKS

Start Location: Dover Plains Train Station.  Use the parking lot on Market Street.  Do NOT use the parking lot on Railroad street.  Google maps link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/eJeZb2fB9N2L6ber7

End of Ride Gathering:  Kelly’s Creamery & Kelly’s Husband’s Food Truck for food and drinks. Google maps link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/HbdpM6W6UNSQeHk4A


DISCLAIMER: This is totally informal. You ride at your own risk and are responsible for your own safety. You are expected to be self-sufficient. We cannot guarantee the condition or safety of roads and trails. Nor can we control the behavior of other riders. This is not a supported event. We expect everyone to be an experienced cyclist who can repair a flat, carry appropriate food and hydration, and navigate independently if they lose the group.

Group photo, minus 5 riders who were either late or still getting themselves ready to roll.


View from the top of Tower Hill Rd. Absolutely worth the climb! Fall colors in the foreground and the Catskills Mountains in the distance.

Summer’s Last Hurrah – Katonah to Carmel Hamlet

Summer weather returned for this weekend, so we decided to get the band back together for another three-speeds ride! It was a lovely ride on beautiful rolling roads in Westchester. We traversed forests, reservoirs, and horse country estates. This was a bit of a “groad” ride (more pavement and less dirt), but it allowed us to visit some places we seldom travel in our other Westchester rides. The long, medium, and short distance groups all had plenty of riders and everyone had a great time. Many of us gathered at Paulie’s Deli after the ride for some well-deserved drinks and food. Thanks to everyone who joined us today and added to the fun!

ROUTES
-Long (66mi/>5000ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48389478
-Medium (59mi/>4200ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48389607
-Short (45mi/>3200ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48389755

Steve’s Strava Post: https://www.strava.com/activities/12409971731

Berkshires Gravel Century from Wingdale, NY (Mt Riga, Mt Everett and Sunset Rock)

Spectacular day of riding with some GrNY regulars. We had perfect weather and a beautiful course! This ride included the core of the Berkshires-Riga-Sunset Rock route, but we started in Wingdale, NY, which is closer to NYC. The route includes an optional spur (mile 50, in blue) to the top of Mt Everett. Everyone was feeling good and did the extra climb, though not everyone maintained traction for the steepest section near the end (i.e., a few riders needed to walk a short distance). The road up to Mt Everett is steep, particularly the last 0.5 mile dirt section near the top, but there are good views as payoff.

Route (110 mi, ~10,000 ft): https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48334310

Steve’s Strava Post: https://www.strava.com/activities/12362495208

The route was beautiful from end to end.

Along the Mt Everett climb.